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[Paypal Disputes] Possible solution to keep scammed $$

Paypal Refuses to refund purchases that are of an online nature.
Worked for me, somone sold an account, had the money delivered to my account, the account was recalled, an the payment was disputed, i replied saying the item was delivered before payment, it is a virutal game account for pc, so it was over the internet.

an BAM! 120$ BACK IN MY ACCOUNT :d
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Let's see if this works Catalyst :P
Could you post the exact words you used?
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He said "the item was delivered before payment, it is a virutal game account for pc, so it was over the internet."
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:3 pretty sure it works, works fine for me
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but if they file it is from a hacked account, you cant win
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They can't prove it was a hacked account xD
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What's not covered

* Items picked up locally or delivered in person
* Services, intangible items, and digital goods
* Claims and chargebacks where the buyer says that the shipped item is significantly not as described



You got lucky. Thats all.
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* Claims and chargebacks where the buyer says that the shipped item is significantly not as described



You got lucky. Thats all.
Not really - the same applies to buyer protection. Talk to anyone at Paypal and they will tell you that filing a dispute over the purchase of a virtual item equates to an attempt to abuse their buyer protection policy.
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Not really - the same applies to buyer protection. Talk to anyone at Paypal and they will tell you that filing a dispute over the purchase of a virtual item equates to an attempt to abuse their buyer protection policy.

Yes realy, read the TOS in depth. Sellers have NO PROTECTION WHAT SO EVER when selling any virtual item. Like I said, he got lucky, and if it comes under secondary review it will get charged back against him.
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Ok .. Isnt it possible to just send a recorded mail ( just some shitty letter ) and then say u delivered a real item and provide that trackin no? Wouldnt paypal have to work in your favour then?
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Yes realy, read the TOS in depth. Sellers have NO PROTECTION WHAT SO EVER when selling any virtual item. Like I said, he got lucky, and if it comes under secondary review it will get charged back against him.
You're an idiot. If you had indeed read the TOS in depth then you would've seen section 11 which is all about seller protection. That said, seller protection is not the issue here since the buyer is opening a dispute and buyer's are not covered for non-tangible goods or services, as you should have read in the TOS as well. Escalate the disputes, call Paypal, state that the virtual goods were delivered and the disputes will be dropped in short order.
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:3 all i know, is youve got a shot, at least thats something in our fight against Paypal Tyranny
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You're an idiot. If you had indeed read the TOS in depth then you would've seen section 11 which is all about seller protection. That said, seller protection is not the issue here since the buyer is opening a dispute and buyer's are not covered for non-tangible goods or services, as you should have read in the TOS as well. Escalate the disputes, call Paypal, state that the virtual goods were delivered and the disputes will be dropped in short order.

And you call me the idiot? Can you not see 11.4? It specifically states, the item must be a tangible good, if you dont understand what tangible is, go look it up.


Ive been using paypal for the best part of 9 years, and whenever I dispute any virtual item I brought, I get refunded 100% guaranteed.


If you want real protection on selling your virtual items, you post the person a Certificate of ownership with a tracking number. Jobs done.
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What if paypal put a hold on the money saying they think it isnt authorized and i just say this and say it was me, Everything should be fine right?
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And you call me the idiot? Can you not see 11.4? It specifically states, the item must be a tangible good, if you dont understand what tangible is, go look it up.


Ive been using paypal for the best part of 9 years, and whenever I dispute any virtual item I brought, I get refunded 100% guaranteed.


If you want real protection on selling your virtual items, you post the person a Certificate of ownership with a tracking number. Jobs done.
I wish I was as lucky as you when you got refunded. I've been declined now, twice. Hell I've only ever tried it twice!!!
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