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Old 04-11-2008
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Legendary Reversing the Paypal Disbute - never fails

Hey guys,

-hope this is not a re-post-

So, as many of you know after you scam an account and sell it, there is always that fear of having that person/company putting in a dispute or claim though paypal to get their money back if the account is recalled.


Now i just got off the phone with paypal and i told them "i sold a virtual item and they are putting in the claim to try and save themselves 237 bucks."

After i said that the paypal representative assured me that in this kind of situation, the money in your account (whether you have a negative balance or any claim) is safe.


Because paypal does not "deal" with electronic items, by default you win the case and always the investigation turns in your favor. All you have to do is provide shipping information but type in "electronic delivery" in the shipping number and put in a few words about how "it was electronically delivered, they are just trying to save themselves money....blah blah..."


And there you go, they will investigate the case and soon your money will be safe and sound with you.


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testing, will update when paypal responds.
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It works guys
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heres a place i could sell an account? +rep if works
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Testing this also.
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Does not always work, I recently lost a $325 case when I specifically specified it was a virtual item. this only works if when they dispute it they dispute for item not recieved, if they dispute for unauthorized transaction you will not win.
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Does not always work, I recently lost a $325 case when I specifically specified it was a virtual item. this only works if when they dispute it they dispute for item not recieved, if they dispute for unauthorized transaction you will not win.
that may be true
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Hey guys,

-hope this is not a re-post-

So, as many of you know after you scam an account and sell it, there is always that fear of having that person/company putting in a dispute or claim though paypal to get their money back if the account is recalled.


Now i just got off the phone with paypal and i told them "i sold a virtual item and they are putting in the claim to try and save themselves 237 bucks."

After i said that the paypal representative assured me that in this kind of situation, the money in your account (whether you have a negative balance or any claim) is safe.


Because paypal does not "deal" with electronic items, by default you win the case and always the investigation turns in your favor. All you have to do is provide shipping information but type in "electronic delivery" in the shipping number and put in a few words about how "it was electronically delivered, they are just trying to save themselves money....blah blah..."


And there you go, they will investigate the case and soon your money will be safe and sound with you.


didnt work. They asked me what type of item was it. The 2nd I said virtual they said "Paypal does not associate and will never associate themselves with virtual items" So I got screwed over
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hmm too risky for me but....nice post and nice contibution
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The person can still do a chargeback. You have no legitimate way to prove to their credit card company that they got the item.
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The person can still do a charge back. You have no legitimate way to prove to their credit card company that they got the item.

It does not matter. The fact that you were paid for a virtual item is enough verification for paypal "Because there is no way for us to verify any transactions for virtual items". As long as you were paid and you say to them that the only way for you to be paid was for the buyer to receive the item you come out ahead.


p.s. no such thing as a charge back on paypal
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Then you, sir, have never been victim of a chargeback.

All Paypal accounts are tied to a bank account, which in turn is tied to a credit card company.

Calling up said credit card company and saying "I did not pay this charge" will result in the charge being removed, and thus having the funds removed from your account, even if Paypal didn't will it.

Not to be rude or anything, but I've been doing this stuff for a very long time, and whether you have or not, I'm not lying at all when I say that you can fall victim to chargebacks after doing Paypal transactions. I'm not just talking out of my ass. I didn't get 187 rep for nothing; I got it from writing guides about Blizzard policy and scamming.
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yea well clearly you have not tried this nor have you read my original post very well.
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I'm trying this out. Hope it works, I have $200 at stake
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