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Old 03-24-2008
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My first successful scam

After getting banned on my main, I'd been looking to get a new character, so I could continue raiding with a friend. Paying $300-$500 for a decent character though, wasn't exactly something I wanted to do.

So using the tips here, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], a cell phone I borrowed from a friend, a fake AIM account and name. I got to work. I tried 3 people. One had some anti-scam methods they wanted to go through, I simply told them my company is not willing to risk our security going through all of those methods as of yet. Another didn't want to sell to a company since he wanted payment first. And the last one took an hour to crack but he left me with an epic 70 shaman. He had all the details, but claims he isn't the original owner.

Though it took three tries, these were my first attempts at account scamming, so obviously I'm new to this all.

The following is the actual conversation that took place, so you can see what I did.

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Originally Posted by AIM conversation with 'Victim'
skiephes (8:36:20 PM): Hi there! I'm Chris Greenfield from American Videots. We're an MMO account selling company that is new on the block. But don't worry, we're not looking to sell to you. We're looking to buy from you. We're currently buying starter accounts for our official launch.

An account scout found your post on an online forum, and gave me your contact information. According to the info I was given, you're looking to sell a level 70 Shaman. Is this correct?

Victim (8:36:39 PM): yeah

skiephes (8:37:10 PM): If you're interested in selling to us, may I ask you a few questions?

Victim (8:37:26 PM): sure

skiephes (8:38:42 PM): First some questions about the character:
What race is the Shaman?
Is there an armory link for your character?
Does the account have any alts over level 60?

Victim (8:38:55 PM): male troll shaman

Victim (8:39:35 PM): Armory link'

Victim (8:39:47 PM): he also has a full set of epic healing gear, including all of season 1 gear

skiephes (8:41:21 PM): Wonderful. We're definitely looking to purchase, but before that, I'd like to ask some security questions about the account.

Are you the original owner of the account?
Do you have all of the information on the account? Secret Question and Answer, Full Name, and the ability to change the e-mail adresses on the account?

Victim (8:42:13 PM): im not the original owner, im the second owner. i know the login info, the secret q and a, and i can change the email. i dont know the original guy's full name and address though

skiephes (8:43:01 PM): Do you have the CD keys on the account? If so we issue a $25 bonus to all people who can provide their CD Key

Victim (8:43:18 PM): no i dont

skiephes (8:44:03 PM): Ok, well as of now, we're willing to pay $435 for the account. The price is negotiable if you feel it is now what you deserve.

skiephes (8:44:55 PM): If you wish to negotiate the price, please provide me with any additional information about the character. Gold on the account, attunement information. Anything you feel would add to the amount we'll pay

Victim (8:45:34 PM): 435 sounds reasonable. you do it through paypal i assume?

skiephes (8:45:49 PM): Of course, and only through paypal as of now.

skiephes (8:46:40 PM): If you agree to the price, I must ask that for security reasons you change your password right now. I am required before all purchases, to log in and verify the account.

You may change your password back when this is done. To make this process quicker, please log out by the Orgrimmar bank.

skiephes (8:47:28 PM): At most it takes 10 minutes for me to check over your character, professions, bank. I'll then log out, and your character will of course be in the condition it was in when I logged in

skiephes (8:47:48 PM): You may move any gold to another account right now if you still feel unsafe of course.

Victim (8:48:45 PM): do you have markeedragon feedback? if so would you be willing to make a post on my forum 'MarkeeDragon thread link' so i can verify it

skiephes (8:49:57 PM): I'm afraid I don't have an account to any forum. I just handle the inspection and purchase of accounts, I do not look for them. We have three different people who browse various forums looking for accounts, and send contact information to me and others who oversee purchase.

Victim (8:50:24 PM): is there any way for me to verify that this is legitimate?

skiephes (8:53:56 PM): I am not sure, how I would be able to prove it to you. Our business process works as such:

Step 1: 1 person finds you and passes the information on to me
Step 2: I interview you about the account, ask the necessary questions, and log in to make sure the account is legitimate. Afterward I advise you to change your password.
Step 3. If you agree to the purchase, we get the account information, and then pass this on to the payment issuer. Their job is to make sure you get paid as quickly as possible.

The process of payment usually takes no less than 5 minutes, no more than 24 hours. (we're fairly quick qith paying, but I am required to inform you it can take 24 hours in case things are going slow, or we're having issues)

skiephes (8:54:48 PM): So as of now, there's nothing I can truly provide you with, because I myself don't have access to a forum account to show you any rep, and I don't oversee the paypal account we use for sending out payment. I'm unfortunately just the guy in the middle.

skiephes (8:55:55 PM): If you still feel uncomfortable with this all, we ask that you cancel right now. The last thing we want is to make anyone we do business with feel iffy.

skiephes (8:58:06 PM): If you do feel you wish to proceed, now is the time I am required to ask you change that password on the account (so we do not know your original password in case you change your mind) I can assure you the process will be quick, and I'll even continue to converse with you in-game if necessary.

Victim (8:58:18 PM): would you be able to call me on the phone to prove you are legitimate?

skiephes (8:58:42 PM): Of course, would you like my number, or would you prefer I call you?

skiephes (9:01:15 PM): If you would like to call me, I can be reached at 1-916-588-5745

Victim (9:01:43 PM): yeah just give me a moment. im moving stuff around in the WoW bank

skiephes (9:02:01 PM): Ok then, while you do that I will be back in about 5-10 minutes

Victim (9:02:06 PM): ok

skiephes (9:06:41 PM): I am back

Victim (9:06:47 PM): ok

skiephes (9:07:10 PM): So now then, how would you like to go about doing this?

skiephes (9:09:12 PM): Also I'd like to appologize in advance because of this AIM interview and purchase. It does feel a bit unprofessional, but I assure you this entire process will be automated when our website officially launches.

As of now we're currently seeking accounts, so we can have a stock of accounts when we launch in a few weeks. So should you ever wish to sell to us in the future, we won't have to deal with AIM, you can simply go through the forms

Victim (9:09:49 PM): ok, im still moving some stuff around, give me another minute

skiephes (9:10:28 PM): No problem, we like to do what we can to make sure you feel comfortable.Take as much time as you need.

Victim (9:19:06 PM): i know this is silly, but can you call my cell phone and leave a message? my number is XXX-XXX-XXXX


skiephes (9:19:15 PM): No problem

skiephes (9:21:23 PM): Message sent

Victim (9:22:10 PM): ok i believe you

skiephes (9:22:35 PM): I am glad to hear that, so now what would you like to go about doing?

Victim (9:22:50 PM): ok ill give you my login info

skiephes (9:23:14 PM): Okie dokie, whenever you are ready then

Victim (9:24:43 PM): login is 'LOGIN'

Victim (9:24:49 PM): pw is 'PASSWORD'

skiephes (9:25:27 PM): Logging in now

Victim (9:25:31 PM): ok

skiephes (9:30:22 PM): Logged out of the account, everything is in order and the character has been verified. You can now:

Continue with the transaction, we ask that you change the e-mail address first. Once that is verified, we request the full name on the account, and the Secret Question and Answer.

When all of that is verified, payment will be issued to your account, and our transaction will be complete

skiephes (9:30:43 PM): If you are having second thoughts, simply let me, know, and you can change your password right now, with no problem

Victim (9:31:28 PM): ok, what email should i change it to

skiephes (9:31:34 PM): The e-mail address we wish you to change your account over to is 'the e-mail I provided'

Victim (9:32:56 PM): ok i just sent the confirmation to that email

skiephes (9:33:07 PM): Ok, and I am checking right now

skiephes (9:34:32 PM): When I recieve confirmation, we shall move on to the next step, and work on finalizing this purchase.

I am required to you remind you upon the agreed upon price of $435. You of course, still agree to this price, correct?

Victim (9:35:09 PM): yes that is correct

skiephes (9:35:55 PM): I have recieved confirmation of the e-mail change. I must now ask for the full name on the account, followed by the security question and answer.

skiephes (9:37:11 PM): Once the SQ/A is verified, payment will be issued, and you shall be a little richer.

Victim (9:37:39 PM): 'Name went here' is the full name. the security question is 'Security question'. The answer is 'Answer'

skiephes (9:37:47 PM): Checking now

skiephes (9:40:05 PM): Account has been verified, now then, you will recive paypal payment within 15 minutes to 24 hours (please remember that is an estimated time, and we have never taken as long as 24 hours to this day, but we are required to mention it just in case)

What paypal account will payment be sent to?

Victim (9:40:23 PM): 'his e-mail'

skiephes (9:41:24 PM): Ok, forwading this to the payment department. If payment has not been issued within 24 hours, please call me directly at my number, 1-XXX-XXX-XXXX. And I will make sure everything is going ok.

Victim (9:41:39 PM): ok, thank you for your help and patience

skiephes (9:42:09 PM): No problem, and thank you for doing business with us. I hope to do business with you again in the future
All it took was some decent english, and a cool head. My advice is to use Skype or something if they want you to call them. I used a friend's cell phone, because I don't feel like being bugged by them. Patience really is a virtue, and don't act like you're desperate for the account. Make them feel as comfortable as possible, and do what you can to gain their trust before you crush it like a grape under a boulder.

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WoW thats hilarious he actually fell for it. And you used your friends cell lol.
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nice scam! very professionally done Any death threats for your buddy yet? lol
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No threats yet, he has 24 hours, then he'll start the threats. I wanted to make sure if payment wasn't issued right away, he didn't get suspicious.
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lol, nice ;P
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Wow, that was really friendly. He'll like getting bombed with calls o_O
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Wow, that was really friendly. He'll like getting bombed with calls o_O
I pay him $1 for every call he'll get. It's the deal we made.
Though if he winds up getting like 400 calls, It'll be easier to just give him the account then.
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haha, did he call?

Edit: What did you say when you called the victim??
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You got him from start to end..
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haha, did he call?

Edit: What did you say when you called the victim??
I called him up and said with confidence: "Hi this is Chris Greenfield with American Videots! I'm calling to leave a message as per your instructions. Not sure what else you'd like me to say though, but hey, it's nice doing business with you."

So far no call back from him
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Grats on getting an account but dont waste room by posting whenever you get a succesful scam.
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Grats on getting an account but dont waste room by posting whenever you get a succesful scam.
Lol, don't worry I won't, I was just happy to get my first account, and figured I'd share how I got it.
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