Illegal to sell scammed gold?

[sirdavino]

Originally Posted by Verye

Sirdavino where are your sources? Because you are completely wrong.

You cannot sell WoW gold for real money. Not only is it against the rules, but Blizzard does not recognize it as a real transaction. It's not just because it's virtual, but because all gold, characters, items, and accounts belong to Blizzard.

Selling gold is not illegal. Scamming accounts is not illegal. Scamming gold is not illegal. Selling scammed accounts is not illegal. Selling scammed gold is not illegal.

Could you get sued for it? Possibly. Could you lose the case? Possibly. However, it is not illegal. Illegal means against the law. You can, however, get sued for practically anything you can think of. Calling someone a bad name is not against the law; it is not illegal. However, you could be sued for $3000 over it.

Ok little confused on how I am wrong so – I’m going to break down your reply…
Illegal, or unlawful, is used to describe something that is prohibited or not authorized by [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] or, more generally, by [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] specific to a particular situation (This is my Blizzard reference).
noun, verb, scammed, scam-ming.
–noun
1.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, esp. for making a quick profit; swindle.

–verb (used with object)
2.
to cheat or defraud with a scam.



2. relate to sales of (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (d) items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime, (e) items that are considered obscene, (f) items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right under the laws of any jurisdiction, (g) certain sexually oriented materials or services, or (h) certain firearms, firearm parts or accessories, ammunition, weapons or knives

1. 1. 1. Use an anonymizing proxy;
      2. Conduct your business or use the Services in a manner that results in or may result in complaints, Disputes, Claims, Reversals, Chargebacks, fees, fines, penalties and other liability to PayPal, a User, a third party or you;
      3. Allow your Account to have a negative Balance;

Now did I say he would go to jail… nope – but it is an illegal act. You may and are very well versed in the laws of wow and several others – but I can assure you when it comes to PayPal – I do know exactly what I’m talking about.

[sirdavino]

Originally Posted by Blazara

Embalm, it was never stolen, the Gold is owned by Blizzard.
It may have changed hands of the 'renter' but its still owned by Blizzard.
So how can it be stolen when the owner remains the same?

And to this comment - ok it was owned by Blizzard -- How was it obtained? By using means in which the “renter” did not pay for it.

[Verye]

Originally Posted by sirdavino

Ok little confused on how I am wrong so – I’m going to break down your reply…
Illegal, or unlawful, is used to describe something that is prohibited or not authorized by [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] or, more generally, by [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] specific to a particular situation (This is my Blizzard reference).
noun, verb, scammed, scam-ming.
–noun
1.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, esp. for making a quick profit; swindle.

–verb (used with object)
2.
to cheat or defraud with a scam.



2. relate to sales of (a) narcotics, steroids, certain controlled substances or other products that present a risk to consumer safety, (b) drug paraphernalia, (c) items that encourage, promote, facilitate or instruct others to engage in illegal activity, (d) items that promote hate, violence, racial intolerance, or the financial exploitation of a crime, (e) items that are considered obscene, (f) items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right of publicity or privacy or any other proprietary right under the laws of any jurisdiction, (g) certain sexually oriented materials or services, or (h) certain firearms, firearm parts or accessories, ammunition, weapons or knives

1. 1. 1. Use an anonymizing proxy;
      2. Conduct your business or use the Services in a manner that results in or may result in complaints, Disputes, Claims, Reversals, Chargebacks, fees, fines, penalties and other liability to PayPal, a User, a third party or you;
      3. Allow your Account to have a negative Balance;

Now did I say he would go to jail… nope – but it is an illegal act. You may and are very well versed in the laws of wow and several others – but I can assure you when it comes to PayPal – I do know exactly what I’m talking about.

Illegal, in terms of law, means something that's against the law. If you're going to say that something is "illegal" in this context, that means it is a criminal act.

So, yes, the term "illegal" definitely has a double meaning. I am saying that scamming gold, selling scammed gold, scamming accounts (unless by phishing or something similar, which IS illegal), and selling scammed accounts are not crimes.