What could you possibly do to get the account back, Kathunx, even if you managed to track someone like me, a grown ass man, down after a scam? I'm seriously wondering. I bet these kids who got caught didn't use JAP or proxies or anything, and were just being amatuer all around. I'm guessing you probably threatened to call their moms or something. What else could you do? Intimidation? Hardly. Blackmail? Maybe.
It seems a restraining order and harassment charges would be sure to follow for you and your crack-team, Kathunx.
peaces, and markee sucks for scamming anyway...
I think you wouldn't be too happy if your main PayPal account and all of your WoW accounts were locked.
I'm not even in there... and neither are all my friends on MMOwned, so that's a phail guess right there. Don't underestimate Kathunx.
what? intelius has records on pretty much everyone, it doesn't matter if you're "listed" or not. it's not 411.com. you have to pay for it, $5 a search. so no, it is not a phail guess, and you should have done some goddamn research before attempting to flame me.
I think you wouldn't be too happy if your main PayPal account and all of your WoW accounts were locked.
Naturally, I wouldn't be.
but I'm wondering how he could make that happen from scratch, seriously. I mean it's easy enough to find someone when they give you their IP, but that's something any 13 year old can do.
What these Jackals allegedly do seems to be highly illegal from the looks of it. And it just seems like a bluff, or at least an exaggeration of their Indian-style tracking abilities. It's a lot harder to find someone who knows what they're doing than you think. And the moment things got ugly, I'd call the cops or file a(or multiple) restraining order(s) and the Jackals would have a lot more shit hitting the fan than just a guy calling their relatives and complaining that he got scammed out of his T6 Drood.
Last edited by Purple Sprite; 08-10-2008 at 04:28 AM.
What could you possibly do to get the account back, Kathunx, even if you managed to track someone like me, a grown ass man, down after a scam? I'm seriously wondering. I bet these kids who got caught didn't use JAP or proxies or anything, and were just being amatuer all around. I'm guessing you probably threatened to call their moms or something. What else could you do? Intimidation? Hardly. Blackmail? Maybe.
It seems a restraining order and harassment charges would be sure to follow for you and your crack-team, Kathunx.
peaces, and markee sucks for scamming anyway...
You're a grown ass man? If this is true, then I would probably take it easy on you. Just knowing that you spend your days stealing money from kids on the internet makes me feel like any attempts to make your life worse than it already is would be futile.
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Naturally, I wouldn't be.
but I'm wondering how he could make that happen from scratch, seriously. I mean it's easy enough to find someone when they give you their IP, but that's something any 13 year old can do.
What these Jackals allegedly do seems to be highly illegal from the looks of it. And it just seems like a bluff, or at least an exaggeration of their Indian-style tracking abilities. It's a lot harder to find someone who knows what they're doing than you think. And the moment things got ugly, I'd call the cops or file a(or multiple) restraining order(s) and the Jackals would have a lot more shit hitting the fan than just a guy calling their relatives and complaining that he got scammed out of his T6 Drood.
First of all, if it got to the point that you had to go down to your local police office and file a restraining order against tons of people that you don't even know, then you have already lost. Especially if you're asking the police to protect you from people who banned your WoW accounts and locked the paypal that you used to commit illegal acts with. In fact, if I ever caught you scamming, I wouldn't have to do much. You don't cover your tracks very well, and you leave evidence of your blatant crimes (just look at your signature, you're selling paypal accounts?) all over the place.
But yes, break the law and then hide behind it. That seems to be the shared mindset between thieves with no integrity.
"You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone
You're a grown ass man? If this is true, then I would probably take it easy on you. Just knowing that you spend your days stealing money from kids on the internet makes me feel like any attempts to make your life worse than it already is would be futile.
Not that I DO these scams, but money's money, my friend. Regardless of where it's coming from, it pays the bills. It just so happens that said "kids on the internet" are often < 13 years old and are in possession of accounts worth the upside of 3 digits, which hypothetically seems like easy pickings.
First of all, if it got to the point that you had to go down to your local police office and file a restraining order against tons of people that you don't even know, then you have already lost. Especially if you're asking the police to protect you from people who banned your WoW accounts and locked the paypal that you used to commit illegal acts with. In fact, if I ever caught you scamming, I wouldn't have to do much. You don't cover your tracks very well, and you leave evidence of your blatant crimes (just look at your signature, you're selling paypal accounts?) all over the place.
But yes, break the law and then hide behind it. That seems to be the shared mindset between thieves with no integrity.
Ah, I didn't say I've been scamming or anything, and who says I'd use a paypal account to commit a crime? And since you bring it up, the paypal accounts I was selling were completely legit, created and verified by me. And I don't have any tracks to cover. And I probably wouldn't talk to the police if I still didn't know you guys, if you were just calling and threatening like you probably do, then there's much easier ways to deal with that. But if someone actually DID go to the police and they realized you were digging personal information up and using it to contact and harass an individual and members of his family over something that you can't even prove that he did, your little operation would be shot to shit. And your saying, "Well, the reason we were harassing this person to the point of filing a restraining order is becuz he scammed my warlock1!!1" wouldn't hold up too well. I would only resort to calling the police if I were seriously endangered, as snitches are bitches and I can dig it, regularly. But anyway, your accusations and hostility aren't appreciated, and I hope you and your Jackals keep up the good work in humiliating some fifteen year olds who are just separating other fifteen year olds from their accounts.
-GTA
Last edited by Purple Sprite; 08-10-2008 at 05:15 AM.
I have some questions for you Kathunx.
I'm not sure if it's been asked before but I really don't want to go through 11 pages of thread to find out and I'm sure it's not hard to answer.
Anyways, my first question is this:
If randomperson1 scams randomperson2 outside of MD.com and randomperson2 is a good standing member of MD.com and randomperson2 comes to you to find randomperson1, would you still do it even if the scam was done outside of MD.com?
My second question is:
What if somedude1 and somedude2 made a legit sale but somedude1 is a high standing member of MD.com and feels like scamming somedude2 by going to you saying that he was scammed out of an account when he really wasn't. He just wants to make somedude2's life miserable and gain profit out of the sale. How can you tell who's innocent and who isn't, or do you just trust the guy with the most respect?
Third question:
What if guy1 made a thread on MD.com selling an account and guy2 bought the account but doesn't have a bunch of rep, or basically not enough to get the jackals into the ordeal. Then later guy1 scams guy2 by taking the account back and by then guy2 has enough rep to go to you, will you go after guy1?
Sorry if this has been asked before, but like I said... I'm lazy. But from what I've seen so far is people asking about the jackals and that's it, which seems a little redundant to me.
Not that I DO these scams, but money's money, my friend. Regardless of where it's coming from, it pays the bills. It just so happens that said "kids on the internet" are often < 13 years old and are in possession of accounts worth the upside of 3 digits, which hypothetically seems like easy pickings.
Ah, I didn't say I've been scamming or anything, and who says I'd use a paypal account to commit a crime? And since you bring it up, the paypal accounts I was selling were completely legit, created and verified by me. And I don't have any tracks to cover. And I probably wouldn't talk to the police if I still didn't know you guys, if you were just calling and threatening like you probably do, then there's much easier ways to deal with that. But if someone actually DID go to the police and they realized you were digging personal information up and using it to contact and harass an individual and members of his family over something that you can't even prove that he did, your little operation would be shot to shit. And your saying, "Well, the reason we were harassing this person to the point of filing a restraining order is becuz he scammed my warlock1!!1" wouldn't hold up too well. I would only resort to calling the police if I were seriously endangered, as snitches are bitches and I can dig it, regularly. But anyway, your accusations and hostility aren't appreciated, and I hope you and your Jackals keep up the good work in humiliating some fifteen year olds who are just separating other fifteen year olds from their accounts.
-GTA
I'm not even going to argue with you because I sort of feel bad. But I highly advise getting a job, because no one wants to be friends with a grown ass man that steals happiness from kids for a living. However, thanks for the support!
@Moji - I'm going to copy and paste your question in the Q&A thread and answer it there.
Last edited by kathunx; 08-10-2008 at 03:17 PM.
"You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone
For those of you were not able to witness the end of that new "I'm a cocky idiot" thread that sprouted today, I'll summarize (it was deleted by an admin) -
Another, arrogant scammer called me out on the forums. You're not going to be hearing from him again.
On a side note, please post your questions in the Q&A and not on this thread.
"You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone
Is it me or does this really sound like under the table work? I find it really weird that some random (Mmowned Donator) suddenly comes up and tells you an IP and that you will make work of that to prove you are real (While you firt said you wouldnt).
Any chance that you might have made a deal with this person saying he has to say it and then the other people would believe you?
Is it me or does this really sound like under the table work? I find it really weird that some random (Mmowned Donator) suddenly comes up and tells you an IP and that you will make work of that to prove you are real (While you firt said you wouldnt).
Any chance that you might have made a deal with this person saying he has to say it and then the other people would believe you?
That was not the first or the last time he did it. If you'll actually read through this thread, he has personally busted multiple MMOwned members, and found the personal info of many of them, including myself, Cookie (founder of COMSA), Adren (a COMSA member), ubrpwnt (a COMSA member), and others.
Yes, this entire thing is a huge conspiracy, and everyone's in on it except for you. He's just bribing us to say this.
That was not the first or the last time he did it. If you'll actually read through this thread, he has personally busted multiple MMOwned members, and found the personal info of many of them, including myself, Cookie (founder of COMSA), Adren (a COMSA member), ubrpwnt (a COMSA member), and others.
Yes, this entire thing is a huge conspiracy, and everyone's in on it except for you. He's just bribing us to say this.
Did you all get your checks in the mail? What about those flowers I sent you?
"You can get much further with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone
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