Demon, ive been silent about everything with you since you released the information of Model editing which IMO should never have been released. It was a questionable decision then and I still believe it and now so even more. That is one of the main reasons im sure that MEing is getting nerfed. With a huge increase of people on GM island, and swimming in the air.
I still respect your skill as a model editor, but some things that I have learned make me lost some of the respect i once held. I know that without you, I would be no where, and I thank you very much so for that, but I wonder why you who had been so anti-releasing shit that could nerf ME'ing to noobs, all of a sudden had a change of heart and released it. You knew this would happen and ever since you haven't been the same person.
Either way its sad to see you go, but I still wonder if its for the better. All good things end sometimes and mabye this is your time :-/ and im not just siding with Piggy, because I was more pissed then most anyone when you released it.
So I thank you once again for taking me under your wing. But I do not thank you for being one of the reasons Model Editing is now being nerfed. Yes a fix will be made, but that takes time and man hours.
What is sad here, is that I do care about MMOwned. That is why I got contributor, donated $25, released all the model editing tools and files, and got elite. I was happy to be made mod. I want to help the site.
I released all the model editing things for mmowned. I figured I was well enough known and had it all, and this is mmowned, so why not?
And then I lost mod for being a dick.
I personally would call that backstabbing. No one said a word to me about anything, all of a sudden, "oh hey your not a mod anymore! And that is because of this and this." Oookay, nice made up reasons guys.
Last edited by Demonkunga; 10-17-2007 at 08:16 PM..
Never said you didn't care demon, just said that you made some decisions at the end that I would have not made, and if you were the same mentality as you had been even 3 weeks before, you wouldn't have even though of doing :-\
(Just posting this while the point of Model Editing being nerfed is up)
I personally like the idea of Model Editing being nerfed. I am not a Model Editor myself, but think of it this way:
Model Editing (When I did it, I knew it as 'Reskinning') has so many opportunities for those who know how to do it. Now, a lot of people know how to do AMAZING things which easily catch Blizzard's attention (And it's not only Demonkunga's "fault" it's bound to happen with anything) and completely exploiting every aspect of the game. Then they are slapped with a nerf, and OH NO! They can't do anything anymore! Model Editing is gone FOREVER!
Wrong. People will find a way around the nerf. It will be spread among those who are trustable with this 'powerful' knowledge. True Model Editors will be able to rebuild what they had before, and it will be a true art again, not just 'Lol, look what I can do!' among thousands of complete noobs.
I personally look forward to a nerf, so it can be 'true' again.
It used to amaze me, seeing these great creations, works of art, now just anybody can whip something up and say they are t3h 1337. *Sighs*
Anyways, that's my view on Model Editing (Nerf)
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What is sad here, is that I do care about MMOwned. That is why I got contributor, donated $25, released all the model editing tools and files, and got elite. I was happy to be made mod. I want to help the site.
I released all the model editing things for mmowned. I figured I was well enough known and had it all, and this is mmowned, so why not?
And then I lost mod for being a dick.
I personally would call that backstabbing. No one said a word to me about anything, all of a sudden, "oh hey your not a mod anymore! And that is because of this and this." Oookay, nice made up reasons guys.
Wait, didn't you say that you stopped using Model changing, and when you did you decided to release the files so it could get nerfed? I have a memory of the fact that you wrote this in another thread..
I released it all with Matt after he decided not to sell them. I haven't edited since that day, as any thing I do won't be as special, since anyone can do it now. I needed a break anyway. I'm playing WoW atm too.
And about the nerf, yeah, we all knew there was going to be one. Didn't you read Errage's post though? Really this nerf will be good. It will make model editing less noticeable and if you happen to find a way to still edit afterwards then you can do it in peace again.
Last edited by Demonkunga; 10-17-2007 at 08:42 PM..
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Statement to flamers/haters:
No one ever said there was a problem with DK as a person.. DK was a dedicated, loyal and extremely active mod.
Now from what you said, that describes someone who would not lose his moderator position. Yet I have lost it. Now, can I ask again, if I was such a dedicated, loyal and extremely active moderator, which is true, I was, then why would I lose it?
And you really don't need to act nice Matt. I heard you, KuRIoS, and FP all agreed I was a dick. So just come out and say it to me and everyone else. Yeah I was harsh, but I really am a nice guy. Your forum might be a lot better off if you all were harsher. I went through a lot of flaming for that release and lost most of the people that had liked me. Got a bad rep with many many people and now all this goes on. Guess I must have a bad rep with you guys too. You really don't need to lie to me. You really should have TALKED to me. You really didn't want me as a mod after all. You knew talking to me could fix the problem, but you'd rather just get rid of me.
Last edited by Demonkunga; 10-17-2007 at 09:23 PM..
Now from what you said, that describes someone who would not lose his moderator position. Yet I have lost it. Now, can I ask again, if I was such a dedicated, loyal and extremely active moderator, which is true, I was, then why would I lose it?
And you really don't need to act nice Matt. I heard you, KuRIoS, and FP all agreed I was a dick. So just come out and say it to me and everyone else. Yeah I was harsh, but I really am a nice guy. Your forum might be a lot better off if you all were harsher.
if your gonna leave, leave.
if your gonna stay, stay.
if you go, sad to see you go. but take the drama with
if you stay, glad to see you stayed. don't whine about losing mod.
You expect us to kiss your ass cause you contributed to mmowned.
I respect you for that, but you should have contributed for the good of the community.
its like being president.
Imagine you are Clinton. you do all this "Stuff" to become pres, you do all this stuff as pres, but once you -leave office- you Un-Do everything you did and still expect us to still have as much gratitude as we did before you un-did everything.
WoW is great... in moderation. Anything more and your... uber l33t... in virtual world where no one gives a damn and wont help you in life... or get laid
if your gonna leave, leave.
if your gonna stay, stay.
if you go, sad to see you go. but take the drama with
if you stay, glad to see you stayed. don't whine about losing mod.
You expect us to kiss your ass cause you contributed to mmowned.
I respect you for that, but you should have contributed for the good of the community.
its like being president.
Imagine you are Clinton. you do all this "Stuff" to become pres, you do all this stuff as pres, but once you -leave office- you Un-Do everything you did and still expect us to still have as much gratitude as we did before you un-did everything.
You really don't understand what is going on so I would appreciate it if you didn't comment about it.
Many of you don't know why I am making such a big deal over this. And I have said time and time again why.
I am making such a big deal over all this because the situation was not handled correctly. I lost my position because certain people do not like me and do not want me as a mod. Not for some very good reason. And I will keep up on this until someone explains exactly what I want to know. I don't want the position back. I just have the question as to, why? Because I am not satisfied with the current answers. This happened nearly out of the blue. Whats more even confusing and definatly not handled correctly, I was never talked to about anything at all. They just up and removed me from my position. And their explanation they currently give makes no sense and is just a cover-up for something else. I did not EARN a lose of position.
Last edited by Demonkunga; 10-17-2007 at 09:45 PM..
This thread is looking so harsh like it's a freaking earthquake destroying this websites atmosphere cus mostly I see flames and it's like a freaking shooting massacre when people were in a huge line for a football madden game for ps2 I mean come on guys this is just like turning into a war ripping the website apart...I never seen mmowned in such tradgety peace
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Why do you want me back? What do I have left to give to MMOwned? I'm not a mod anymore so I can't give modding services. I already released every model editing secret and tool I had. I don't even model edit anymore since my "big release." Supposably this is looked down upon since I want model editing to get nurfed. I hate to say I want it nurfed because I do love model editing, but it is way too popular now. It needs a nurf like that so it can be brought out of the public eye and rise up again later. Because there always will be a way and everyone will eventually find out.
So back to my leaving: I really don't have anything left to give. All I had been doing lately was modding the model editing section. I haven't given any content since the beginning of September. I was trial mod for 3 weeks and full mod for 2, I got my ass flamed to all hell for doing what I felt was the right thing. I really wanted to become super mod because of how much I love mmowned, I feel modding the site is my only way left to contribute. But being demodded for what I feel is a big misunderstanding, while that is a major step backward and I really don't have the time for all this right now. If I had to put this incident on someone, it would be on schlumpf, as he finally got his wish. I am no longer a mod of mmowned and most likely never will be again. Thank you all for your support, but I really see no reason to be here anymore. I like many of you, and just talking to you all is nice, but I can't stay here just for that. I'll read the replies of this post though. Love you guys. -Demonkunga
Wow, alot of people less ranked(aka me and like 50,000 people) stop contributing and still go on tghe site, atleast hang around on ggeneral offftopic and other things, you may be "done with contribing to the site but alot of people <3 u and its a shame if you leave over this.... Stay for the sake of mmowned!!!
this thread needs to die because all i'am seeing is why Demonkunga lost his position and apparently he did do something wrong or he wouldn't of lost it and that was his mistake for doing so
but alot of people are getting annoying...
My 2cents DK you lost mod ok forget it leave or stay really you seemed cool i do understand on how you feel about contributiing and garbage im in the same position but dude please stop repeating the same things over and over I cant contribute anymore that i lose mod position then learn something else dude....ill probably be staying out of this thread now.....but either way DK i like you as a member and so do other people and they would be grateful for u to stay
Re: Demonkunga removed from Mod
gl in rl
peace
