[Discussion/Questions] Difference Between ArcEmu and Ascent?

[Mango Jerry]

Discussion/Questions: Difference Between ArcEmu and Ascent!
* The Difference Between ArcEmu and Ascent *

Discussion/Questions:

- Good things about ArcEmu and Ascent?
- Wich Emu is best? ArcEmu or Ascent?

- Which Emu do you Recommend for Users/Beginners?
- Why do you Recommend that Emu?

- What is the bad thing about ArcEmu and/or Ascent?
- What do you think is the bad thing about ArcEmu and/or Ascent?
- What is the good things about ArcEmu and/or Ascent?

- Which Emu is the Easiest to Setup? ArcEmu or Ascent?
- Why is that one the Easiest to Setup?

- Which Emu is the most Stable? ArcEmu or Ascent?
- Why is that one Stable?

- Which Emu has less Bugs in Northrend etc? ArcEmu or Ascent?
- What is the Bugs on ArcEmu or Ascent?
- Do you think that they'll be fixable in the Future?

- For how long have you been using ArcEmu or Ascent?
- Why do you use the Emu?
- How many Stars to you give the Emu-Team?
- Why so many Stars?

- What is the exact Difference between ArcEmu and Ascent?
- Why are they Different?
- Why are some of the Unstable and some of the are Stable?

* Thank you for Joining and for Answering! *

[2dgreengiant]

Don't even dare to flame in this thread or you will be removed.

edit: You can't really define which is better tbh

[Mango Jerry]

Yeah i know, 2d.
I just wanna hear other people's opinions/answers about ArcEmu and Ascent.

[latruwski]

Technically Ascent is dead, allthough there are some people working on/with it underground
Now there is AspireDev

(checking questions)

- Good things about ArcEmu and Ascent?
Arcemu, AspireDev, OpenAscent all are derived from Ascent/Antrix
Good things: Stability, Capacity(players), easy to use

- Wich Emu is best? ArcEmu or AspireDev?
Since both are derived from Ascent, there is no big difference... allthough now i think AspireDev is ahead of Arcemu...

- Which Emu do you Recommend for Users/Beginners?
Well both are exacly the same (as far as running and source is 75% the same)... so any of them is OK
If you talk about Mangos, Arcemu, AspireDev and Kobold i would advice AspireDev or Arcemu...
- Why do you Recommend that Emu?
It is very easy to use and there are way more repacks/funstuff for it also to support beginners...
There is a good dev team behind it and both of them have daily updates.
- What is the bad thing about ArcEmu and/or Ascent?
Arcemu: copypaste emu like a lot of developers call it... the core is a little less stable then AspireDev and AspireDev kept its structure nicer.
Nothing of your concern if you are a beginner and not thinking about core-editing.
- What do you think is the bad thing about ArcEmu and/or Ascent?
Arcemu has a lot of 14 year olds in the community that talk crap (14 year olds = figuraly)
AspireDev also has some of these kids (who hasn't? even mmowned has)
- Which Emu is the Easiest to Setup? ArcEmu or Ascent?
Both are almost exacly 100% the same... there are just small differences in the config files (extra options etc) So both of them are the same level of difficulty to setup
- Why is that one the Easiest to Setup?
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- Which Emu is the most Stable? ArcEmu or Ascent?
AspireDev a little more stable maybe, but you can't tell the difference...
- Why is that one Stable?
Less copy-paste and more structure
- Which Emu has less Bugs in Northrend etc? ArcEmu or Ascent?
Hard tosay, both have nice things working... AspireDev worked on new systems for the emulator (scripting etc), Arcemu has done its share...
They both have a lot of things worked on, can't really tell wich one of them has 'most'
- What is the Bugs on ArcEmu or Ascent?
If you want me to write down all the bugs then you better prepare for a post of 1000 pages Every emulator has thousands and thousands of bugs... A lot of them are small bugs, but there are big ones too
- Do you think that they'll be fixable in the Future?
Every bug is fixable... the thing is if you fix one bug (editing a part of code) you could be making 10 new bugs... that is the hard thing about programming with sources like these... everything is combined so if you touch one thing, you touch 20 things
But yes i do think both of these emulators have a very nice future and will solve a lot of the bigger bugs
- For how long have you been using ArcEmu or Ascent?
Used Antrix then Ascent all the way... used Arcemu after that for a while and now using AspireDev 24/7
- Why do you use the Emu?
Becuz my friend/developer Aceindy is working on that project and becuz i see more potential in it
- How many Stars to you give the Emu-Team?
AspireDev: 8
Arcemu: 6
if 10 was max
- Why so many Stars?
Explained most of it already
- What is the exact Difference between ArcEmu and Ascent?
The difference is that both projects went their own way.... so they both have new features, other teams, other fixes, ....
But they look a lot like eachother becuz they derive from the same emulator.
- Why are they Different?
Becuz the 2 teams went their own way... they both started making new features, developing new stuff etc... in their own way
- Why are some of the Unstable and some of the are Stable?
If you see unstable serves then most likely it is a funserver or repack server... those are the most unstable ones.
Some revisions could be more stable then others too... simply becuz of the source that is edited... if devs made a small mistake it could cause instability for example (way more examples then that though)

[Clain]

Really... the only difference between Arcemu and Ascent is that Arcemu has more bugs fixed and features added. Andy does the packet cracking and all that for Ascent then Arcemu just uses that to update their emulator and keep adding on to it as where Arcemu has a larger development team(24ish people).

[Vindicated]

^^ Clain is right. Aceindy does all the stuff for AspireCore, then ArcEmu rips it . I personally like Ascent better, but it's harder upkeep.

Edit by Gastricpenguin: Not proven

[fastelf]

^^ Arcemu does not rip it, the last thing they ever ripped was the crash fix that occured in 3.0.8.

Lots of people think they rip it.. merely because they just do not like the developers, they never take a step back to see what they are actually doing.

This is why i use arcemu, i support them, unlike other people who choose to say stuff about the other emulators.

When it comes down too it, you cannot say your emu is better then another, unless it is better in absolutely every single way, which no emulator is.

I like arcemu for the reason that its easy to setup, and you can get help for almost anything on their forums or IRC channel.

Besides,

If this Leaf emulator turns out to be real, and as good as it says it is, all other emulators for WoW will either terminate, or join to try and make a better one.

That is what i think.

[RyeRye]

I didn't even know Ascent was still around?

I think it died a few months back. And Antrix has been gone (Just felt to need to say that :P)

So there working on it underground?

[Clain]

Not going off subject but@Fastelf: "LeafEmu" for the most part isn't real, remember the release date for it on that site? Yeah well I'm pretty sure thats passed by now. There was already another thread about people laughing about it on emupedia :/ The next idiots are at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

@RyeRye: Its pretty much dead, of course I'm sure Andy will keep updating client versions between patches.

[Gastricpenguin]

- Good things about ArcEmu and Ascent?
Superior uptime, great stability, many bugs are fixed weekly, etc.

- Wich Emu is best? ArcEmu or Ascent?
Both are derived from Antrix. ArcEmu has a larger development team and has many more featuers added.

- Which Emu do you Recommend for Users/Beginners?
ArcEmu. Configuration files have been made for beginner and advanced users. There are plenty of guides that use ArcEmu in their setup.

- Why do you Recommend that Emu?
Look above.

[mager1794]

Well Personally

I feel arcemu is the best they have a good development team
good project management and organization
everyone on the forums are helpful and you get replys in like a hour or a bit more
and i've been using arcemu since it first came out and
well i just like the community and the people and i could never leave

plus there pretty stable and always updating and Not to mention
they have arcscript working hard to get all the mobs scripted
All in All arcemu is probably the best Emulator for begineers

[Mango Jerry]

Thank you for the long and explained Comments from ya all.
Good to hear that allmost everyone is using ArcEmu.

[777devil777]

Originally Posted by RyeRye

I didn't even know Ascent was still around?

I think it died a few months back. And Antrix has been gone (Just felt to need to say that :P)

So there working on it underground?

It didn't die that long ago, I'm personally still using Ascent for 3.0.3 til I can change my DB to work with Arc.

Edit @ OP: There isn't much of a diffrence between Antrix derivatives. Ascent was privatized not too long ago by one of the main guys, and then the project split up and updates got slower. Ascent is pretty much dead (But its still being updated, but more like a pet project).

Of course theres still Mangos which alot of people seem to ignore, which has been around for a long time and is constantly updated. The only downside to mangos is a bit more 'sloppy' coding, but it really isn't that bad.

[Henkke]

Originally Posted by 777devil777

The only downside to mangos is a bit more 'sloppy' coding, but it really isn't that bad.

Well, now when you look at ascent derivatives, aspire, arcemu, the sloppy coding seems to affect them more than mangos atm. Ascents code was nice when burlex was doing it, but from that it's been going into pretty messy way.

[Algorithm]

I think there is a big difference.

If we take an example such:

Hearthstone (Aspire) and Arcemu those are 2 different emulators even if they were all based of Ascent.

No flame intended:

Arcemu uses much more CPU and memory Vs Hearthstone.

I have quad core xeon 3.0 and my cpu usage on start up with ArcEmu jumps sometimes to 90% and during the online performance it uses at least 25% more of CPU then Hearthstone. In overall performance wise i prefer Aspire. A lot of spells and procs are working correctly. Very smooth run.
However Hearthstone is more trickier its a bit more complicated, after the addition of Tr1 support its more trickier with custom scripts.

Arcemu is a good emu no doubt about it. Its very good for smaller servers, they have all scripts projects for instances and more funserver options. Very easy to install and compile, a lot of spells are being fixed. The development is on the right track.